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	<title>Comments on: Cheap &#8220;Poor-man&#8217;s&#8221; Networking (Crossover Networking)</title>
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		<title>By: Jamus</title>
		<link>http://jamus.co.nz/techthought/2009/07/18/crossover-networking/comment-page-2/#comment-333</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 07:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the excellent posts there, PCMD</description>
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		<title>By: PCMD</title>
		<link>http://jamus.co.nz/techthought/2009/07/18/crossover-networking/comment-page-2/#comment-329</link>
		<dc:creator>PCMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take back the statement about 10/100 LAN NOT being able to stream HI-DEF (720p). 100mbs is good enough for 720p (not sure about 1080p). I was in the middle of adjusting the Interface Metric (it was at 3 when I tried 720p streaming the first time). Tried it again last night and it worked great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take back the statement about 10/100 LAN NOT being able to stream HI-DEF (720p). 100mbs is good enough for 720p (not sure about 1080p). I was in the middle of adjusting the Interface Metric (it was at 3 when I tried 720p streaming the first time). Tried it again last night and it worked great.</p>
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		<title>By: PCMD</title>
		<link>http://jamus.co.nz/techthought/2009/07/18/crossover-networking/comment-page-2/#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>PCMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 03:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My set-up is the wired LAN with crossover cable and I use wireless adapters to access the wireless access point in the building (free internet). When I set-up the wired LAN the OS (XP SP3) put priority on the wired LAN over the wireless and essentially throttled my wireless to zero whenever I accessed shares or did streaming audio or video and it didn&#039;t matter which PC I was using at the time. I did put together a fix and hope this helps using dual adapters. Setting at 1 will make that LAN take priority over the other. Setting the other to 5 gave me a good balance of the two LANs. 100mb is good for streaming DVD but not HI-DEF. 

Control Panel - Network Connections - Right Click on the 1st connection and go to Properties - 
Scroll down to (TCP/IP) and click properties - Under the General tab Click Advanced - 
Uncheck The Box Called Automatic Metric and Change the Interface Metric to 1 to Start Off - Click OK - OK - Close

Do the Same thing for the 2nd Connection Except Change the Interface Metric to 5. Adjust if needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My set-up is the wired LAN with crossover cable and I use wireless adapters to access the wireless access point in the building (free internet). When I set-up the wired LAN the OS (XP SP3) put priority on the wired LAN over the wireless and essentially throttled my wireless to zero whenever I accessed shares or did streaming audio or video and it didn&#8217;t matter which PC I was using at the time. I did put together a fix and hope this helps using dual adapters. Setting at 1 will make that LAN take priority over the other. Setting the other to 5 gave me a good balance of the two LANs. 100mb is good for streaming DVD but not HI-DEF. </p>
<p>Control Panel &#8211; Network Connections &#8211; Right Click on the 1st connection and go to Properties &#8211;<br />
Scroll down to (TCP/IP) and click properties &#8211; Under the General tab Click Advanced &#8211;<br />
Uncheck The Box Called Automatic Metric and Change the Interface Metric to 1 to Start Off &#8211; Click OK &#8211; OK &#8211; Close</p>
<p>Do the Same thing for the 2nd Connection Except Change the Interface Metric to 5. Adjust if needed.</p>
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		<title>By: PCMD</title>
		<link>http://jamus.co.nz/techthought/2009/07/18/crossover-networking/comment-page-2/#comment-327</link>
		<dc:creator>PCMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 04:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a snap to get started. IP addressing went great. Ping on each PC went well. However I couldn&#039;t see my shares on either PC. It turned out to be the firewall! I&#039;m using Zone Alarm by the way. Even though I added the network to the firewall exceptions, it was still blocking. I had to manually allow the IP addresses to go through. And make sure the windows firewall is turned off as it can turn itself back on when making changes like name and workgroup. So when you&#039;re setting this up and can&#039;t see other network shares, make sure you check your firewall and anti-virus logs to see if the IP addresses are still being blocked after your first effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a snap to get started. IP addressing went great. Ping on each PC went well. However I couldn&#8217;t see my shares on either PC. It turned out to be the firewall! I&#8217;m using Zone Alarm by the way. Even though I added the network to the firewall exceptions, it was still blocking. I had to manually allow the IP addresses to go through. And make sure the windows firewall is turned off as it can turn itself back on when making changes like name and workgroup. So when you&#8217;re setting this up and can&#8217;t see other network shares, make sure you check your firewall and anti-virus logs to see if the IP addresses are still being blocked after your first effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Riso</title>
		<link>http://jamus.co.nz/techthought/2009/07/18/crossover-networking/comment-page-2/#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator>Riso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for posting this. It helped me a lot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for posting this. It helped me a lot</p>
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		<title>By: Jamus</title>
		<link>http://jamus.co.nz/techthought/2009/07/18/crossover-networking/comment-page-2/#comment-321</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took me a while to figure out what&#039;s happened, but anyways:

&lt;strong&gt;Symptom&lt;/strong&gt;
The “sharing” tab is not available in the new windows that pops up.

&lt;strong&gt;The reason&lt;/strong&gt;
There isn’t an Internet connection running on either of the computers when you were trying to share a non-existing Internet connection.

&lt;strong&gt;More importantly, the problem that we have here&lt;/strong&gt;
It sounds like both of your computers have only one LAN port each, and that it is not possible to wire to both the DSL modem and to each other simultaneously. In other words, on one of the two computers, it needs to have 1) One connection to the other computer, and 2) One connection to the DSL modem.

I think before we proceed to link up the two computers according to the tutorial, we need to figure out how to deal with the problem first.

&lt;u&gt;Suggestions&lt;/u&gt;
1) Get a PCI ethernet card and insert into one of the two computers. That way, you will have two LAN ports to deal with this problem

2) Get a router, which will connect to the router and the two computers. This will eliminate the need for a crossover network

3) Get two wireless USB adaptors, and pluck them into each of the two computers. That way, the crossover network will be formed via the ad hoc manner.

I am looking forward to your reply :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took me a while to figure out what&#8217;s happened, but anyways:</p>
<p><strong>Symptom</strong><br />
The “sharing” tab is not available in the new windows that pops up.</p>
<p><strong>The reason</strong><br />
There isn’t an Internet connection running on either of the computers when you were trying to share a non-existing Internet connection.</p>
<p><strong>More importantly, the problem that we have here</strong><br />
It sounds like both of your computers have only one LAN port each, and that it is not possible to wire to both the DSL modem and to each other simultaneously. In other words, on one of the two computers, it needs to have 1) One connection to the other computer, and 2) One connection to the DSL modem.</p>
<p>I think before we proceed to link up the two computers according to the tutorial, we need to figure out how to deal with the problem first.</p>
<p><u>Suggestions</u><br />
1) Get a PCI ethernet card and insert into one of the two computers. That way, you will have two LAN ports to deal with this problem</p>
<p>2) Get a router, which will connect to the router and the two computers. This will eliminate the need for a crossover network</p>
<p>3) Get two wireless USB adaptors, and pluck them into each of the two computers. That way, the crossover network will be formed via the ad hoc manner.</p>
<p>I am looking forward to your reply <img src='http://jamus.co.nz/techthought/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://jamus.co.nz/techthought/2009/07/18/crossover-networking/comment-page-2/#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying to copy data from old desktop &#039;puter to newer desktop &#039;puter.
Both run Windows XP, home ed. SP3

Both, independently, work fine over a CAT5-wired DSL modem. 
Both have Network Connections/System/local area network running.

I did not create a new connection, using the existing LAN connections.
Did as instructed, got to the point where I assigned new workgroup names and 
rebooted both machines.

Then, where you instruct: 
1. Go to Start &gt; Control Panel &gt; Network Connections &gt; Network Connections
2. Right-click on your LAN connection and click “Properties”
3. A new window should pop up, click the “Sharing” tab
4. Tick the checkbox that lies next to the statement “Allow other network users to connect through this computer’s Internet connection”...

I find the same panel as before, no sharing tab. 

BTW, I haven&#039;t yet linked the crossover cable between the computers - or I couldn&#039;t be on the net reading thee direction. My Ethernet ports would be linked to each other, not the DSL modem. I was going to do that last. Then go back on line when I&#039;m done.

No luck so far getting transfers going.

Thank you for your help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to copy data from old desktop &#8216;puter to newer desktop &#8216;puter.<br />
Both run Windows XP, home ed. SP3</p>
<p>Both, independently, work fine over a CAT5-wired DSL modem.<br />
Both have Network Connections/System/local area network running.</p>
<p>I did not create a new connection, using the existing LAN connections.<br />
Did as instructed, got to the point where I assigned new workgroup names and<br />
rebooted both machines.</p>
<p>Then, where you instruct:<br />
1. Go to Start &gt; Control Panel &gt; Network Connections &gt; Network Connections<br />
2. Right-click on your LAN connection and click “Properties”<br />
3. A new window should pop up, click the “Sharing” tab<br />
4. Tick the checkbox that lies next to the statement “Allow other network users to connect through this computer’s Internet connection”&#8230;</p>
<p>I find the same panel as before, no sharing tab. </p>
<p>BTW, I haven&#8217;t yet linked the crossover cable between the computers &#8211; or I couldn&#8217;t be on the net reading thee direction. My Ethernet ports would be linked to each other, not the DSL modem. I was going to do that last. Then go back on line when I&#8217;m done.</p>
<p>No luck so far getting transfers going.</p>
<p>Thank you for your help.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamus</title>
		<link>http://jamus.co.nz/techthought/2009/07/18/crossover-networking/comment-page-2/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 21:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Internet — Laptop (via the usb wireless adapter with ICS turned on)
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
How is the laptop connected wirelessly to the Internet? Is it connected directly to a transmission tower, similar to WiMAX? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX

I am from New Zealand, and we haven&#039;t had much exposure to high speed wireless Internet, so I do apologise for the naivety of the question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Internet — Laptop (via the usb wireless adapter with ICS turned on)
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<p>How is the laptop connected wirelessly to the Internet? Is it connected directly to a transmission tower, similar to WiMAX? <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX</a></p>
<p>I am from New Zealand, and we haven&#8217;t had much exposure to high speed wireless Internet, so I do apologise for the naivety of the question.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I had not noticed that the brackets in my response disappeared when i sent it. Here is a retry. i have represented the connections with --- since my brackets seem to disappear:

What I have right now is;

Internet --- Laptop (via the usb wireless adapter with ICS turned on)

What I am trying to achieve:

Internet --- Laptop (via usb adapter) --- wireless (and wired) router ---- another laptop (via wireless to the router) and an Analog Telehone Adapter (ATA) wired to the router for voip telephone service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I had not noticed that the brackets in my response disappeared when i sent it. Here is a retry. i have represented the connections with &#8212; since my brackets seem to disappear:</p>
<p>What I have right now is;</p>
<p>Internet &#8212; Laptop (via the usb wireless adapter with ICS turned on)</p>
<p>What I am trying to achieve:</p>
<p>Internet &#8212; Laptop (via usb adapter) &#8212; wireless (and wired) router &#8212;- another laptop (via wireless to the router) and an Analog Telehone Adapter (ATA) wired to the router for voip telephone service.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamus</title>
		<link>http://jamus.co.nz/techthought/2009/07/18/crossover-networking/comment-page-2/#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but before we move on further, could you please confirm that the network illustration that I had provided earlier is correct? If that is largely incorrect of the situation, could you please provide a diagram that is more commensurable?

Jamus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but before we move on further, could you please confirm that the network illustration that I had provided earlier is correct? If that is largely incorrect of the situation, could you please provide a diagram that is more commensurable?</p>
<p>Jamus</p>
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